DATE OPP RESULT MIN FG 3P FT ST BL TO PF OR DR TR AS PTS
12/12 Nor W 94-82 32 4-12 0-1 2-2 1 0 2 4 2 4 6 2 10
12/15 Uth W 100-91 39 7-14 0-0 11-15 3 0 6 3 3 6 9 8 25
12/17 @Atl W 88-85 37 7-12 0-1 1-2 4 0 3 2 2 4 6 7 15
12/19 Chi W 126-108 30 2-3 0-0 0-0 4 0 1 3 4 1 5 15 4
12/21 Nyk W 124-105 32 12-14 0-0 2-5 2 0 1 0 1 5 6 5 26
SUMMARY
FG% 58%
FT% 66%
REB 6.4
AS 7.4
TO 2.8
ST 2.8
Assist-to-Turnover 2.6-to-1I was watching the first game of the 1986 Finals the other night. DJ ended the game two rebounds shy of a triple double.
Assist + Steal-to-Turnover 3.6-to-1
Rondo's got a lot of DJ in him.
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yeah, he have some of DJ game and the face of The Chief! :D
I always loved DJ. And yes, Rondo has some DJ in him, including being very underrated. DJ never got the credit he was due because he played with the original Big 3 and Rondo seems to have that same problem.
Did you guys see Magic actually came out and said DJ deserves to be in the Hall?
Well done, Magic.
Yes, I saw that. I think the majority of his contemporaries feel that way and it has been such a disgrace for the Hall that he hasn't been inducted.
Magic face DJ soo many time he really know how good he was first hand.
Probably Rondo have the same "bad luck" of playing with 3 HOF ;) but I'm quite sure he prefer been underrated and win instead of been a star and win not...
And I'm quite sure that like Tony Parker he'll get plenty of love in the next years.
DJ was the second best guard of his era, his era ending in 1986.
How can he continued to be overlooked????????
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Might help if I read the comment before I posted it.
:)
I was looking up some stats and I came to the conclusion DJ wasn't the 2nd best guard in the era ending in '86. Isiah Thomas was the 2nd best guard up to that time. I'd put DJ 3rd with Sidney Moncrief at 4th. He's also on the outside looking in.
As usual Kid, we'll have to agree to disagree.
Finals MVP.
Three championships.
All-Defense.
Killer in crunch time.
What did Zeke do between 79-86?
When was Zeke's rookie year?
You must have a vote on the HOF committee.
They are all stats based too.
Isiah came along in 81-82. He made the All-Star team every year from 81-86 which DJ didn't. 2 All-Star MVPs in 84 and 86. All-NBA 1st team in 84,85, and 86, made the 2nd team in '83. Led the league in assists in '84 and '85. Isiah carried the team on his back and had some great clutch moments include that final minute of a playoff game against the Knicks.
Isiah was pretty much recognized as the 2nd best guard in the league by 1984. He was already a monster and he was just getting started.
You could say by the time Isiah was winning championships his best years were behind him. At least that's the way he was treated by critics. He won the Finals MVP in 1990 and wasn't voted to a single All-NBA team, a feat noted by Sports Illustrated in 1990.
All Star MVPs don't mean much, do they?
Anyway, I'll take DJ.
In a head to head, I'll take the defensive guy over the offensive guy, and DJ at the height of his powers may have had no equal.
In basketball the truly great offensive players like Bird and Jordan can't be stopped. There's a reason why Isiah is the only PG to lead a team to multiple championships. In crunch time he was unstoppable no matter who defended him. DJ was a very good player but even at his best there are other guys who are his equal and better.
9 time all defensive team to 0 time for Zeke.
I'll take the two way player any day, especially when the one I'm choosing was one of the most reliable crunch time scorers in nba history (barring his first nba finals).
Most people would agree with you.
But head to head in their primes, Zeke would get shut down by DJ.
That's why I pick Isiah. DJ never shut him down nor did any other player. He came along while DJ was still in top form and he was more clutch as he almost willed a Finals win in 88 and shredded Portland in 90 among other playoff highlights.
DJ wasn't just a very good player. He was an all-timer.
9 time all-defense plus the clutch play in crunch time puts him in near the top of all guards from the beginning of the NBA through 1987.
Magic is first, Oscar second, and DJ is somewhere close after that. But even Magic and Oscar couldn't play defense like DJ.
Speaking of clutch, who threw the lazy pass that Bird intercepted in 87?
And how on earth can you call him clutch in 88? The Pistons were up 3 games to 2, and lost the series.
Isn't that two huge choke jobs????
You forget in '88 Isiah was injured in Game 6 of the Finals, an injury that normally would have knocked a player out for weeks. Instead he lit up the Lakers for 25 points in 1 quarter when he should not have been playing. He had a strong Game 7 also. Isiah is mainly known for his performance in the 88 Finals and would have easily been MVP if the Pistons had won. If that's not clutch then what's clutch?
Also, I can't think of a great scorer who couldn't be stopped or severely limited.
Wilt whenever russell needed a stop.
Jordan in game 3 of the 86 playoffs, and for much of 87 and 88 against Detroit.
James in most of the Celtics series last year.
Bryant in most of the Celtics series last year.
I like Zeke. But if he was healthy enough to score that much, then he was healthy enough to get them over the hump.
the 88 finals were a choke job.
You like offense, I like defense.
Only with dj, you got both when it mattered.
How could the '88 Finals be a chokejob when Isiah should not have been playing down the stretch in Game 6 or 7?
Great offensive players always step up when their team needs them.
Jordan pretty much smoked Detroit in '88 it was his team that didn't step up in any of the years they lost to Detroit. In '86 he was due for a down game after scoring 63 and 49. James stepped up huge for the Cavs last year after Games 1 and 2 of the ECSF.
I go with defense also. But Isiah was a better player than DJ in every year they were in the league together except 81-82.
Disagree
Two DJ steals from Zeke to put the game away. Like I said, I'll take DJ
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DETROIT Before renewing that ancient NBA rite of spring - Celtics vs. Sixers - take time to toast the everyday people in this factory town that finally got a taste of the NBA in May.
Raise a glass to Vinnie Johnson , Terry Tyler, Alibi Isiah and the rest of the Detroit Pistons. They pushed the world champions to the brink of exhaustion before expiring at the Joe Louis Arena last night. In the end, they didn't have the size or talent to cope with the Celtics.
Boston's war chest of weaponry wore down the Motown gang in the Game 6 clincher. On a night when the Celtics were badly outrebounded (58-38) and staff stopper Larry Bird didn't have his fastball (7 for 22), Robert Parish, Dennis Johnson and Scott Wedman led a 123-113, wire-to-wire victory.
Parish (24 points, 13 rebounds, 3 steals) rediscovered his turnaround jumper and had some inside help from Kevin McHale (20 points). "They were looking for me tonight," summed up Parish.
DJ scored 22 and had six assists and five rebounds. His figures didn't match up with Isiah Thomas' 37-point, 10-rebound effort, but DJ is the man with two championship rings and he played like a winner for 44 minutes.
Wedman did a Bird imitation off the bench. Mr. Dense Pack exploded for 17 points in 22 minutes, hitting seven of eight shots, including a three-pointer.
"He's a second gun out there," said Cedric Maxwell.
"He was the key tonight," added Pistons forward Kelly Tripucka.
Another key was Boston's turnover count of six - a record low for an NBA playoff game. The Celtics committed 92 turnovers to Detroit's 65 in the first five games but gave it up only six times last night, compared with 19 miscues by the Pistons.
It was a cranky, carrot-chase of a game. Boston took the lead in the first 40 seconds and never trailed. The Green Team led by 14 in the second quarter when the Pistons missed 15 straight shots. Detroit cut it to two twice in the third and trimmed it to four in the fourth, but the Celtics answered every time.
"Every time they got within striking distance, we got off and scored four or six more points," noted Bird, who had nine of his 17 in the final period.
Bird and Wedman shot the Celtics to a 105-95 lead with 7 minutes, 29 seconds left when the Pistons staged their final, futile comeback.
After a jumper by Vinnie Johnson (who came back to earth with 2-for-10 shooting) cut Boston's lead to 105-101, DJ made a big play, stealing the ball from Isiah and setting up two free throws by Parish. Wedman was playing guard alongside DJ at that point.
After a timeout, Parish stole the ball from Bill Laimbeer and Bird hit two from the line to make it 109-101 with 4:12 left.
Then Laimbeer (21 points) fouled out trying to rebound a Kent Benson miss. Wedman hit two free throws and it was 111-101 with 3:46 showing.
Isiah and Benson cut it to six again, but DJ stole from Thomas again, then hit three fouls shots as the lead swelled to 114-105 with 1:54 left. That's when folks started filing out of Joe Louis Arena and the Sixers started confirming their plane reservations to Boston.
"He (Thomas) pushed the ball out in front of him a bit and I reached in and got the ball," said DJ. "A lot of times they call a foul on that play, but half the time I get the ball."
Thomas (12 of 28 from the floor) was out of control the rest of the way.
Funny he should mention those. Trailing 105-101 with five minutes left, Dennis Johnson stripped Isiah. Next, trailing by 111-105 after a Kevin McHale traveling violation, Isiah was plucked again by DJ, who broke away, was fouled and made the free throw. Then Isiah missed an implausible drive, which DJ followed with two free throws. And then, after floating in a 10-footer for 114-107 and drawing Bird's fifth foul with 1:39 left, Thomas missed both his free throws.
Isiah taketh and Isiah giveth away.
I'll take the guy who led his team with 37 and 10 while playing with such luminaries as Kent Benson and Terry Tyler. Replace those guys with Dumars and Aguirre that guy leads to championships.
12-28 from the field and two turnovers in crunch time to seal the loss.
You can't blame that on Kent Bentson.
Who would have ever thought a DJ-Isiah comparison would generate 26 comments!
When you have only 1 legit offensive option and an average secondary one in Tripucka you're going to force things more.
and when you have the Big 3 you're place in history is apparently lost...
Well and also the fact that DJ won his Finals MVP in what was considered to be the worst season in NBA history until some of the stinkers of this past decade. Being run out of Seattle with the reputation as a malcontent just 1 year after winning Finals MVP also hurts him.
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